Dear Hari!
I have a question.
There is a knowledge about chakra's sistem, and owing to it people have a possibility to change theirself and their lifes. If all chakras would be free from blocks and all subtle bodies would be harmonious, people would be happy and perfect. But even he who is the expert in vision and control of energy does not hurry to change something in his chakras radically because this imperfections and divergences from a standart allow to feel the definite experience. Likely a soul chooses the limited convictions and conceptions before the birth in order to receive this blocks and imperfections in own energetic sistem. And the difference in flow of energy reflects an individuality of soul with its desires.
My question is: If would souls not take this chakra's sistem and this embodiments, would be some differences in their pure energy? (and what it would express in?)Or before the display are the energies of souls identical( it is the one energy) and only possibility to display it by different ways creates the individuality of a soul? What can you say about it?
I know the theoretical answer from books that a soul always has the individuality, but how can I feel it practically? Because now I feel only different condition of chakras with their blocks and so on. And generally, is it possible to perceive the original energy of a soul here and now?
Thank you.
14.11.08
Dear Hari!
I continued my investigation and I tried many times. And it seems to me, something began to come of it.
At first I look how an energy flows. I take the information which is in chakras. (about peculiarities and character of a person, his desires and problems). And all it is constantly in motion. Then I look what is under it and more immovable. Thus I get to something that is very light,almost elusive, isn't connectioned with an action, but very quick, and similar on a mood. Usually this is something delightful and it doesn't coincide with that how a person displays himself in life.
Am I on correct way?
individuality of a soul
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Re: indiduality of a soul
May I give a simple answer?
I do not worry about all the ins and outs of cakras and how I might be affected by them and why. I do not see a difference between my energy in its pure state and my energy as it flows from that state to the external environment within which I exist. Naturally there is a difference between what we might conceive as our fundamental and basic pure spiritual energy and the quality of our consciousness in this world, but this is not the sum total of what I am. Regardless of how my spiritual energy manifests internally or externally, it is the same energy whether it is resting as Being or transformed by the world.
If I am this pure energy and this energy is the basis of consciousness, then my task is simply to feel what I am. The more I feel what I am, the more I am consciously aware of what I am; more aware of my particular, unique Being. As spiritual seekers become clearer about what they are, they naturally will live in accordance with this knowledge. As we find ourselves flowing in our own energy rather than accepting energy as our own that is imposed on us from the exterior realm, we become lighter, clearer, more aware, more conscious, and thus more spiritual.
It does not matter what state the cakras are in or how they cause my energy to manifest externally. If I am aware of my being, I am also aware of how my cakras are perfectly suited to my energy. As they are "mine" they are part of me and are in reality my creation. As they are energy and work with my energy as the gateway to my world, they represent a part of my being. If I do not choose to use them in a manner that does not represent my being the cakras do not act as impediments. If I choose to express what I am, my cakras act as tools of this expression.
If you try to understand Being through the cakras, you are going to have trouble as the cakras carry some debris from previous traumas. If you concentrate your efforts on your energetic essence, you will feel your way past the trauma. You can then see this debris from the inside out and clear it faster.
But this is just my way of seeing it. I know others will say, "OK, but how do you get to the being if you are contaminated?" But it seems to me this question is an illusion as the being can not be contaminated. Rest within the being and feel it without worrying about the quality of it.
In other words, instead of trying to become something (better, purer, wiser, more skilled, more anything) just feel what you are and be present in that. It is a different way of seeing the same thing, but a way that is in tune with what we are instead of trying to be in tune with what we want to become.
I do not worry about all the ins and outs of cakras and how I might be affected by them and why. I do not see a difference between my energy in its pure state and my energy as it flows from that state to the external environment within which I exist. Naturally there is a difference between what we might conceive as our fundamental and basic pure spiritual energy and the quality of our consciousness in this world, but this is not the sum total of what I am. Regardless of how my spiritual energy manifests internally or externally, it is the same energy whether it is resting as Being or transformed by the world.
If I am this pure energy and this energy is the basis of consciousness, then my task is simply to feel what I am. The more I feel what I am, the more I am consciously aware of what I am; more aware of my particular, unique Being. As spiritual seekers become clearer about what they are, they naturally will live in accordance with this knowledge. As we find ourselves flowing in our own energy rather than accepting energy as our own that is imposed on us from the exterior realm, we become lighter, clearer, more aware, more conscious, and thus more spiritual.
It does not matter what state the cakras are in or how they cause my energy to manifest externally. If I am aware of my being, I am also aware of how my cakras are perfectly suited to my energy. As they are "mine" they are part of me and are in reality my creation. As they are energy and work with my energy as the gateway to my world, they represent a part of my being. If I do not choose to use them in a manner that does not represent my being the cakras do not act as impediments. If I choose to express what I am, my cakras act as tools of this expression.
If you try to understand Being through the cakras, you are going to have trouble as the cakras carry some debris from previous traumas. If you concentrate your efforts on your energetic essence, you will feel your way past the trauma. You can then see this debris from the inside out and clear it faster.
But this is just my way of seeing it. I know others will say, "OK, but how do you get to the being if you are contaminated?" But it seems to me this question is an illusion as the being can not be contaminated. Rest within the being and feel it without worrying about the quality of it.
In other words, instead of trying to become something (better, purer, wiser, more skilled, more anything) just feel what you are and be present in that. It is a different way of seeing the same thing, but a way that is in tune with what we are instead of trying to be in tune with what we want to become.
Re: indiduality of a soul
[in other words, instead of trying to become something (better, purer, wiser, more skilled, more anything) just feel what you are and be present in that. It is a different way of seeing the same thing, but a way that is in tune with what we are instead of trying to be in tune with what we want to become.[/quote]
But what if we cant manifest who we really are due to the past traumas and s.o. We know who we are, we remember how it feels - to be what we are, but -... Where is this harmony between trying to be a higher version of ourselves and relaxing in acceptance of who we are just here and now?
But what if we cant manifest who we really are due to the past traumas and s.o. We know who we are, we remember how it feels - to be what we are, but -... Where is this harmony between trying to be a higher version of ourselves and relaxing in acceptance of who we are just here and now?
Re: individuality of a soul
Obviously you have to work on the effects of your traumas to be able to accept yourself. However, while this is going on, and it will always go on more or less, you can still connect with your being and be it. How much harmony you feel within depends on you.
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Individuality of a soul
Hari wrote:
I do not worry about all the ins and outs of cakras and how I might be affected by them and why. I do not see a difference between my energy in its pure state and my energy as it flows from that state to the external environment within which I exist. Naturally there is a difference between what we might conceive as our fundamental and basic pure spiritual energy and the quality of our consciousness in this world, but this is not the sum total of what I am. Regardless of how my spiritual energy manifests internally or externally, it is the same energy whether it is resting as Being or transformed by the world.
Dear Hari
I feel a difference in my perception of an energy of chakras and of an energy of essence of a person. When I tune myself on chakras of a person I get an information about what how this person expresses himself in the world, how acts, has what problems and so on. This information is more mental, and it is connected more with a condition of this person now, how it seems to me. I interested very much how I could perceive an original energy of soul, it was some problem for me, the abundance of information confused me. But then I found that there was some constant shade which did the energy of a person recognisable in any his condition. I tried to catch this subtle shade. Now I feel it more as music, I hear it. There is some constant melody( it is even not a melody, but I don't know how to express it differently) of a person. It also is connected with definite kind of radiation, dinamics of it. It seems to me, it is connected also with main intention of a person. When I feel this kind of my own energy, hear my own melody I find myself in very pasific condition, I feel my power and truth. And if I connect with Divine in such condition it is very breath-taking experience
I do not worry about all the ins and outs of cakras and how I might be affected by them and why. I do not see a difference between my energy in its pure state and my energy as it flows from that state to the external environment within which I exist. Naturally there is a difference between what we might conceive as our fundamental and basic pure spiritual energy and the quality of our consciousness in this world, but this is not the sum total of what I am. Regardless of how my spiritual energy manifests internally or externally, it is the same energy whether it is resting as Being or transformed by the world.
Dear Hari
I feel a difference in my perception of an energy of chakras and of an energy of essence of a person. When I tune myself on chakras of a person I get an information about what how this person expresses himself in the world, how acts, has what problems and so on. This information is more mental, and it is connected more with a condition of this person now, how it seems to me. I interested very much how I could perceive an original energy of soul, it was some problem for me, the abundance of information confused me. But then I found that there was some constant shade which did the energy of a person recognisable in any his condition. I tried to catch this subtle shade. Now I feel it more as music, I hear it. There is some constant melody( it is even not a melody, but I don't know how to express it differently) of a person. It also is connected with definite kind of radiation, dinamics of it. It seems to me, it is connected also with main intention of a person. When I feel this kind of my own energy, hear my own melody I find myself in very pasific condition, I feel my power and truth. And if I connect with Divine in such condition it is very breath-taking experience