Dear Hari
In our life we have to accept quite a lot things that doesnt realy depend on us.
When we are coming to this warld we have to accept the nature : the forests,the lakes, the mountains
the climat and so on as it is .Althought there are so many things depend on our inside warld, on our point of vew, but as much even more things doesnt at all depend on us.
So there are abviously in this warld objective reality.
In so called spiritual realm i mean in the other realm,wich conected a lot with our inside warld must be reality that also exist without our expectation wich is existing itself wich doesnt depend on expectations and imaginations of believers.
So my question is does such an objective reality exist in the spiritual or i dont know how it call
proparly realm?
Love
P.S At least there are persons individuals whose existanse doesnt depend on our believes,why they should change themselfs for us why shouldnt we accept them as they are althought i have no idea how they can look objectivaly as they are among themselfs.
again the reality
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Re: again the reality
When we take birth, we enter into a world that already exists. This is an obvious truth. Therefore, we can assume that if we are not now in that other world, we have to enter it and when we do we shall perceive the people and nature already there. This previously existing reality is not dependent on us. Once we are there, we become part of that reality.
As this is obvious, I think the problem in your mind might be connected to the word, "objective." Perhaps you are using it to refer to some fixed and absolute reality that is independent of our or any external influence?
What exists now is a product of all that was before. We create and mold our world by our choices, by our consciousness and ultimately by our desire. We cannot change the nature of reality but we can influence the way in which we relate to it. For example, we cannot change the nature of water to be wet, but we can influence where the water goes and how it is used. We can pollute the water, or we can purify it.
To some degree, we influence reality and by influencing it we are creating it. This influence is mainly a function of our consciousness. We influence existence in proportion to our awareness.
Those in the 'other world' have more awareness and therefore influence their realms in a spiritually compatible manner. Certainly they influence their realms! If they had no influence and simply had to accept what was there it would be a dictatorship and not a sharing of love.
As this is obvious, I think the problem in your mind might be connected to the word, "objective." Perhaps you are using it to refer to some fixed and absolute reality that is independent of our or any external influence?
What exists now is a product of all that was before. We create and mold our world by our choices, by our consciousness and ultimately by our desire. We cannot change the nature of reality but we can influence the way in which we relate to it. For example, we cannot change the nature of water to be wet, but we can influence where the water goes and how it is used. We can pollute the water, or we can purify it.
To some degree, we influence reality and by influencing it we are creating it. This influence is mainly a function of our consciousness. We influence existence in proportion to our awareness.
Those in the 'other world' have more awareness and therefore influence their realms in a spiritually compatible manner. Certainly they influence their realms! If they had no influence and simply had to accept what was there it would be a dictatorship and not a sharing of love.