Harimedia Forum

In the month of Caitra,
on a quiet moonlit night,
whispers were heard
on a high Dvaraka wall.

Soldiers came
with weapons raised
but found
only empty shadows.

Krishna stands
on a dark balcony
with his queen
who knows it too.

Radha cries
for her long lost love
with tears hot
like the quiet sea below.

Shadows grow
in hearts heavy with sorrow
and regrets
for what could not be.

They say
nobody dies from a broken heart
but that is only
the real cruelty of Fate.

Gray moth flies up and away
in meditation of this moment
with heart beating faster
than her silent wings.

Gaura wrote:I wonder how anything can be not Him. How we can divide into inside and outside world. ...

I would say, the way we identify ourselves with, or may want to identify ourselves with, plays also a very significant role in this matter. In my opinion, ones bodily identity or race identity how one may like to call it otherwise, or even ones so called "spiritual" identity may depend also on what we may want to choose "to be" or identify with.

And in my opinion, this identification of ourselves can be discardet or abandoned or changed in order to come closer in agreement with the reality of how it may really "be," for example only, if you are choosing "you yourselves" to do it. For example our different societies, regularly abandon concepts. I would say, few people nowadays would believe for example in "the divine right of kings" and even moore fewer ones, would accept for instance, and I would like to remain by this example, one of the Roman Empire´s fundamental principles, that it´s proper to "divide" society between citizens and slaves. (I guess no-one would accept such a thing nowadays)

I guess stopping, or better said changing, since we cannot stopp "to be what we are" rather change our concept of identifing with what we "really could be", the I would say, somehow "social" concept of bodily identification or race identification, or any other identification one may "want" to have, which may be or come somehow in conflict with the reality of things, as they really are or could "be", is in my opinion not different in any way.

I would say, that could not be done by waiting for "everyone else" to do it.
Rather acording to how I would understand the principle behind "we change the world by changing ourselves" and if we "are right" acording to the definition given from higher sources and accepted, inspired and helped by Them, the "world" will change. I´m convinced about this. Gandhi for example said, and I don´t want to take this as a reference for something or someone or a meaning of any kind, only because it comes into my mind, he said: "If you want people to stop seeing each other in terms of race (I would like to add to this also, what I wrote you above) let the change begin with "You".

Om Shanti Shanti Shanti...

I have somehow the, for me not deceitfull impression, that for some of us, there exists a somehow "spiritual" need of oneself, if I´m allowed to describe it in this way, to receive knowledge and spiritual guidance, which one could use, not only in order to became aware of someOne, and how to connect again in a spiritual sense with this "One", rather for the purpose of how to "become" himself that "One" by merging somehow into His spiritual existence, or to become better aware, that one "is" already that "One" in some way or other, and thus been able to do and enjoy that what He "is" been able to do, or is already doing.

Nothing to say against it since the soul is in itself full of bliss and of the same spiritual nature as the "One" I mentioned above, I just wonder if the approach to gain again that bliss, and become again aware of ones real spiritual "nature" and atributes, could be the right one.
In my opinion, a complete shift of spiritual approach is taking here place.
What is your opinion, in this regard dear Hari, I´m sure you know what I mean by that. I would be very thankfull to you if you would write something about this. Its for me, acording to the understanding I was aware of until now, a complete new territory or field of exploring or approaching the Supreme - very interesting indeed.

Gaura wrote: Isn't it strange. I always new that there was and is only One, then who are We?
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And I'm sorry to say, since I'm week and under the illusion of "separation of everything" most of the time, I'm sometimes shay to live life as if I know nothing about all this. But I'm trying when I remember...

My dear friend Gaura, I just came back from my work today, yes I,m also working although I like also to take part in communicating my thoughts and awareneses of the Supreme with all of you, I, m a salesman, till two weeks I have a new job here, in my town Nürnberg, somehow one has to get also ones income from, in order to maintain oneself and ones family. And I was always thinking today, maybe I reacted not properly to your open comment, about how you experience your spiritual being. I,m sorry if you feel somehow hearted or misunderstood, it was not meant that way.

Please give me a sign that everything is alright with you. I personally am of the opinion that you are indeed somehow right with your understanding, "I allways new that there was and is only One," of us, I would like to add to this, and indeed I would say that there is indeed only "One" community of souls who were emanating ones from that "One" Supreme soul who is also caled the cause of all causes, so why not the cause of all of us. Therefore I would say that indeed in this togethernes we could be in fact really "One", who may search or experience our spiritual and "material being together. Thus we could make together progress in our evolutionary proces of discovering and experiencing our true or genuine being or nature.

Or what would you say about this?

Dear Harsi.

I'm lucky gay. Since I speak Russian it's sometimes hard for me to understand your language. So I didn't get that you was against me.

I was just sharing my understanding, not being even a little apposite to you.

About Ones it's hard for me to say something really mature since I'm researching. But I have noticed one interesting moment. I think the only important is the observer. Whether in this world or in between states the observer is real and other moments will come and go.

I have a feeling that trying always be conscious of that observer is the key.

So the research is going on. I'll make some comments if there will be any "news" on this interesting field.